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Chris R

Monday 17 October 2005 4:36:48 pm

Hi Gabriel- thank you for your reply as well.

"I'd say VPS hosting would help. ezpublish is quite ressource hungry and usually the ISPs cram fewer VPS on a machine than normal hosting customers. This makes sense, as VPS needs more RAM and other ressources and is thus somewhat self limiting."

I did not realize VPS needs more RAM- I have never had VPS hosting before so I am unclear on those specifics but as you noted due to the fact that most hosts cram tons of sites on shared hosting I was thinking that since I would be partitioned off from everyone else it might help this CMS load quicker and be more stable generally. From your answer it seems you agree with that.

"As for ezpublish being hard, yes and no. For standard stuff, it's quite straight forward, but once you leave that, it gets rather hard. It is however quite a bit more flexible than most of the other CMS, surely much more so than Mambo."

Yes, I have heard Mambo has a difficult UI and like I said before they accomplish clean URL's by a dirty hack that from what I understand adds time to the load time. The only benefit to that CMS it seems is the large community behind it and a large amount of templates to choose from but my feeling is ez publish would be better.

"If you don't feel you can install itself, it's likely you won't be happy with it after that. :("

Not only do I feel that I cant install it myself- I *KNOW* I cant - thats why I was considering firebright as thier accounts come pre-installed with ez publish. If i did not go with them or some other host that offers this I will have to pay someone to install it for me so I dont know, maybe you are right- maybe this and all CMS' for that matter are above my head. It's really too bad because it really seems like all CMS' are made by programmers, for programmers. if someone could come up with an easily manageable CMS thats search engine friendly I think they would make a fortune because there is a huge, untapped market out there for people like me but oh well.

The thing is that even if I had to pay someone to install it, I would do that but if I cant even configure it or update it there is not much point to it I guess.

Gabriel Ambuehl

Tuesday 18 October 2005 12:42:42 am

I haven't personally used it but heard good things about http://www.squarespace.com/

Visit http://triligon.org

kracker (the)

Monday 31 October 2005 1:03:33 pm

I was wrong and you need to know it. Anyone who spends more than 3-12 months around Jonathan (Whatever his last name is this year) will realize that no one should let him in their life at any capacity, on any terms, at all.

Jonathan / FireBright is a hosting services that will never come out of the closet.... Jonathan / FireBright is a pariah in any community (in person, software communities, eZ publish, Drupal, etc). Jonathan will build up a person with compliments only so their insults will hurt all the more.

Sadly only the people who do trust him with their data, hosting or meet him in person for extended periods of time will begin to see how he manipulates people to _his_ advantage. without thought or pause to his affect on the victim...I mean customer.

Watch them try to put a new spin or excuse on the why, but you can't escape the nature of their presence on the eZ publish community, take a look at what they contribute.... Google in depth about FireBright, watch Jonathan post online simply to increase his name / business name's Search Rank Placement with pointless posts to old topics.

Sad part about these kinds of people is that it takes people who will stand up and go public with their experiences to oust these types of people for what they really are; from seeming to be upstanding regular people on the surface and warning others about the inherent dangers of these kinds of people in any situation.

See: Pariah in the community, Parasitism, Social Parasite, Predator, adnausium... In short, Social parasite is a derogatory term denoting a member detrimental to the rest of society by taking advantage of it. In some cases the term is related to specific notions.

My sincere apologies go out to anyone who has ever been a customer of FireBright or is considering having anything to do with FireBright. Talk to advanced users who have hosted with them, they will tell you about the `pages` of problems associated with using them, poor support, don't answerer or return phone calls, you can trust FireBright to take your money but that's about it.

//kracker
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kracker (the)

Monday 31 October 2005 1:25:30 pm

If you really want or need VDS/VE solution (which does work better for eZ publish than shared hosting) I don't know what to tell you.

Under no load they might meet your needs, there are lots of providers of VDS/VE's these days. But under any kind of serious use or load they tend to become slow unresponsive and show signs of serious performance problems.

This is mostly because to recoup the costs of the VDS/VE software and hardware, most of the companies who offer a VE solution simply <i>must</i> <b>cram</b> as many customers on a single hardware node (server) in these little VDS accounts as possible without it taking down the whole server.

In the end they just balance as many customers as the server can handle for as long as possible without regard for the customer's actually performance (which varies greatly day to day, hour to hour), unless you have either money, name/clout or another reason why they would selectively grant special care to you over the hundreds of customers who well are `out of luck`.

I was going to mention `GoDaddy VDS` (google that) service since they are a bigger firm and can spread out the customers a little more, but seems the same problems inherent to all VDS systems also are found their as well. No more hosting name drops (please)

FACT. In the end if you use eZ publish or any other high end CMS/CMF for very long, you'll find peace you really want from buying, leasing or owning a dedicated server even if it's an old set of hardware. Dedicated hardware is the best investment for any eZ publish application, period.

//kracker
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Tony Wood

Monday 31 October 2005 1:51:35 pm

Hi Kracker,

>>"FACT. In the end if you use eZ publish or any other high end CMS/CMF for very long, you'll find peace you really want from buying, leasing or owning a dedicated server even if it's an old set of hardware. Dedicated hardware is the best investment for any eZ publish application, period."

I would have agreed with you a while ago, but I have fallen in love with VMWARE server. This is an amazing environment that lets you grow you CPU/RAM and disk space as you grow so keeping pace with demand. If setup correctly it will ensure you a protected from hardware failure.

Used as part of a CoLo setup this protects you from Hardware depreciation. This is the bit that kills me. You buy a lovely shiny server and within a year it has lost most of it value.

I think you need to choose your environment carefully based on budget and need, as I have seen both work.

Thoughts?

//yyz ;-)

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Stuart DH

Tuesday 08 November 2005 4:48:39 am

Here we go again. Site went down a few hours ago, contacted support, no reply as yet. Will keep you posted.

http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk

Stuart DH

Tuesday 08 November 2005 9:09:43 am

Still no reply form Firebright.

I've phoned their support line and listened to the up-to-the-minute server report, which sounds as though it was recorded more than 1/2 a day ago, so it's more like up-to-the-day support.

Apparently, a spam network has targeted the server so they cut off their customers while they repair. The grainy recorded message reckons that they'll have it fixed with 15-30 minutes (that was half a day ago), but it may have said 15-30 days, which is probably more likely.

No messages posted on their website, no up-to-the-minute reports, no emails...nothing!

Once we're back online, I look forward to seeing Jonathan's play for the sympathy vote of how many hours they've spent fixing the problem, how the service is now so much stronger and what extra facilities they can advertise in their reply.

Another shining example of Firebright service

http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk

kracker (the)

Tuesday 08 November 2005 12:09:09 pm

wow,

Again? oh no, service like a yo yo and ya know, FireBright is a <b>spam magnet</b> ... have you ever wondered how their configuration kinda encourages that :? I know this without question, you host with FireBright you are going to get hit with a volume of spam i've not seen since I hosted with gci.net

Seriously Stuart, I know it's been a while and I was the one who started this mess in the first place by making the fatal mistake recommending them, but I really think it might be in your best interest to, well ...

At least test another provider of the Virtuozzo (VDS/VE) service you are using currently. There are many more out there and since you know more about the ins and outs of eZ publish (re: ezpub*) and have existing sites you won't need installation or FireBright non-existent support / lack of emergency support or can't keep a scheduled support event.

While I don't know about any other hosting providers anymore. I would wager you would get better availability, less outages, and better support from a larger company *cough* like godady.com (which does offer the same service as FireBright)

I just keep thinking in the end that it's just not worth trying to keep service with <b>FireBright</b> ...

1. a one man psudo company,
2. who is a eZ partner in name only (<b>scoff</b>, no contributions to community),
3. offers horrible eZ support
4. doesn't even use eZ publish for their site(s) - helpdesk, knowledgeable or e-commerce)
5. doesn't provide phone support (save leave a message)
6. which has crammed as many customers as possible onto two servers (what he calls 'good guys vs `who cares`, your own `who cares` server btw) to bleed the customers until they give up and move on.

<b>FireBright, Inc. is Not what I'd call a shining example of eZ publish or eZ publish service.</b>

That said, it is a little fun to keep hearing from a FireBright customer who's honest enough to tell it like it is ...

Save yourself man, when it comes back up, migrate!

//kracker

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http://www.google.com/search?lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=.%20Virtuozzo
https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/hosting/build.asp?ci=466&display=virtual
http://www.swsoft.com/en/partners/current/
http://www.swsoft.com/en/partners/current/type,14
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