Call for testers: new Online Editor

Friday 03 October 2008 4:12:03 am

<i>Have been looking for ways to make it more intuitive, no other editor (even stock tinyMCE) does it like this so your not the first to ignore it.</i>

This is a really good point. It is amazing how much of good UI relies on assumed knowledge and experiences of the user. In my paradigm, there has never been a feature in the bottom left, as a result in my world, there is none. This is common to a few folks I have talked to so I suggest we need to use colour coding to educate (ever so suitably) the users of the online editor that there is a great feature here. All they need to do it click.

<i>I guess the current (rightmost) tag should have a orange background and not the whole bar? </i>

You know, I thought about that as I played with the bottom bar, you have the ability to always change the paragraph so if we hold true to the concept it should be orange all the time. Now obviously that just plain doesn't work.
Making the last element orange will work, except when you come to tables where all "table » table row » table cell" could be deemed as important.

so what to do...

Once thing to try could be to make "paragraph" into a default action and then make everything that comes after it have an orange background. This would make it obvious that you can use the bottom bar immediately you click on an active item.

If we are on suggestions, I would also change "Path" to an action word rather than a passive word. So something like "Modify" or "Change".

Hope this helps.

Tony

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Friday 03 October 2008 5:49:19 am

Way to go Mark.. I love it!

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Friday 03 October 2008 6:12:17 am

I did have to make the icon slightly smaller to work here.

I also like your orange highlight of the currently selected object to help give some visibility when selecting nested items.

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Monday 06 October 2008 6:22:56 am

Hi

Is there a timeline for OE 5.0 release.

Right now it is so much better than the old OE it seems like a "no brainer" for folks just to use it.

Tony

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Tuesday 07 October 2008 1:33:32 am

Timeline: will be stable when 4.1 is, around november / december.

Cut and past is one of the reasons it's not stable yet, as well as translations(5 new being committed later today).

I couldn't reproduce your problem in OO 2.4.1 on windows though, when rc7 is out later this week you could try to enable the 'pasteword' button in ezoe.ini to see if that helps(a button to open a special past from word dialog).
If it doesn't help (being a ms word specific feature, that wouldn't surprise me), then I need to test on mac to see what's going on.

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Thursday 09 October 2008 11:47:41 am

Hi Andre,

I have an issue when editing images in OE 5.0rc6. The Class type is not saved with the image.

<b>to recreate</b>
1. Add an image
2. edit it
you will not the class is set to "itemised Sub items" and not "none"

Could you please ensure it remembers the correct setting. Also it is probably a good idea to make the default class set to none, currently it is "itemised Sub items" for me.

Can this squeeze into rc7?

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Friday 10 October 2008 7:19:27 am

I can not recreate your class issue, what browser are you using?

As for the 'Special Character' link, are you using .htaccess file to do url rewrites?

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Friday 10 October 2008 7:48:43 am

Yes, I assumed you got a 'Module not found', because I guess your rewrite rules doesn't allow .htm files to be opened from your design folders. So you will have similar issues with the past from word button. (technically: a few buttons just use the dialog that comes with TinyMCE instead of creating a eZ specific one using modules and views).

So what kind of rewrite rules is in use on your site, and where did you get them from?

And as for the image classes: browser and version.

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Tuesday 14 October 2008 4:28:51 am

To help with the Online Editor adoption programme we have created an online training video for the new OE v5.0 rc6

http://www.visionwt.com/training-ezpublish-online-editor

I hope this helps people using and moving to the new online editor which is a *massive* time saver.

Tony

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Tuesday 21 October 2008 10:40:19 am

@Denitsa:
> documentation says that the implemented plugins(described in ezoe.ini) are the only one tested

In other words, these are the only ones supported.

There are several issues here:
1. Oe does not translate the strings it doesn't use
2. TinyMCE doesn't ship with any translations
3. Oe should probably set settings.language to false to avoid the language loading

I'll look into fixing #3 for next version.
I'll also try to come up with a method to more easily extend the translations, but it is already possible if you look into how Oe currently load it's translations, and how you can define your own Packer callbacks (see end of ezoe.ini).

@All:
rc7 is out, nothing major, but pay attention to the change log on the download page for the 'breaking' (warned about them earlier) changes.

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