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Friday 19 June 2009 4:04:36 am

Can we create the User journeys for the admin interface and share / incoprotate the community.

* Quick edit/add
* Long article edit/add
* Managing Users (for 5 ranging to 100,000 +)
* Updating images
etc...

This would help us get the front end and back end matching the user needs for small and large editorial teams.

This information would need to come from editors and partners who can gather the requirement over time. All we need a single survey form and we can collate the results. A kind of "if you contribute" you get the "UX report" kind of thing.

Maybe we can find some time to discuss at the conference. We need a rocking admin interface that fulfils the needs of the editor and publishing teams.

Note: A single field front end editor would just make my day.

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Friday 19 June 2009 4:19:35 am

Not ended. Maybe we should split the thread.

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Friday 19 June 2009 4:50:09 am

> Why did you end up picking YUI over jQuery?

More modular and the fact that several important/needed extensions are supported by Yahoo, you'll need to roll your own or use 3. party stuff to get the same level of functionality in jquery.
And with 3.0, most of the reasons why one would choose jquery over Yui are gone or weak(Have you seen the new syntax? It's as mentioned closer to jquery and far easier to work with then yui 2.x).
And the fact that it supports running several version, while not 100% optimal, would both aid large dev teams that continually improve existing sites with new large features, as well as our extension ecosystem.

And we already use yui in webin / flow.

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Friday 19 June 2009 5:04:02 am

Hi Tony,

this (your) way is a good approach, let's do it this way. What do the others think about? And is there a chance to get a survey?

ekke

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Friday 19 June 2009 5:35:52 am

Hi Tony, hi all,

first draft of the survey questions, please correct and add something:

Which of the following user types most accurately describes you?
* Technical user
* Manager
* Project lead
* Editorial user
* Community user
- Comment

Please rate your level of experience with the eZ Publish administration interface?
* Novice _ _ _ _ _ Expert
- Comment

Overall, how satisfied are you with the eZ Publish administration interface?
* Very Dissatisfied _ _ _ _ _ Very Satisfied
- Comment

Which part/task/action in your daily work with the eZ Publish administration interface makes you angry?
- Comment

What are your ideas to improve this?
- Comment

What features are missing to speed up your work?
- Comment

What features are missing to make your life more happy with the eZ Publish administration interface?
- Comment

If you had €500 to invest in improving the usability and quality of the eZ Publish administration interface, where would you distribute this amount first and second?
- Comment first
- Comment second

ekke

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Friday 19 June 2009 6:13:26 am

This looks promising, but one thing, if we go for the "100 healing points" route, then I think it will be a mistake to scope it to only the admin interface, as we should identify such healing points globally for (all parts of) the CMS as well.

But getting good feedback on what is annoying with the current admin interface and suggestions for what could make it better and more productive is a very good thing anyway, as we know its one of the big ones.

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Friday 19 June 2009 6:31:09 am

Hi Tony,

I'll put it into my footer,

eZ Publish administration interface usability improvement survey ;-)

ekke

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Tuesday 23 June 2009 3:24:40 am

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Which part/task/action in your daily work with the eZ Publish administration interface makes you angry?
- Comment

What are your ideas to improve this?
- Comment

What features are missing to speed up your work?
- Comment

What features are missing to make your life more happy with the eZ Publish administration interface?
- Comment
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Are not these questions too similar one another?

As for expansion of scope, I'd say we could extend it to frontend editing, but no more...

Principal Consultant International Business
Member of the Community Project Board

Wednesday 22 July 2009 11:00:38 am

Hi fellows !

I've read this thread very carefully and ... will that finally happen ????

Some tracks to follow :

* You may use the jQuery UI library, it's very powerfull, compliant with major browsers and you can theme the library. I've used it already on two projects and customers who are technophiles loved the result.

* You can do some better stuff for developpers : for example the debug block at the end of the page

* You can improve also the way to browse the content when the user is not in a browsing context. Today, adding a content with a relation is a pain and you need at least 6 clicks to publish something... To reduce this, you can use some shortcuts like tags or search facilities (already done in OE5, but needed to spread).

* Please provide some nice INI conf file to easily change or customize the back office (see in Symfony...).

Hope it will help. However it's a great new ! Refreshing design is always a good part.

Max

Maxime Thomas
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Friday 16 October 2009 7:09:33 pm

Hi again

Sorry for the long absence from the discussion. Lots of projects little time..

Two weeks ago we started to use an online Accounting system at www.xero.com.

My colleague, that has very limited computer experience was in charge of setting up the system and making sure all data was entered correctly. After 1 week, no training, basically no questions, I got a mail saying it was all done.

The point is that, the same person has at various times helped out with entering content for clients in the eZ admin interface. Then we experience a very steep learning curve and lots of questions. I needed to personally sit down for hours and explain how to do it. Even after that she does not feel very secure in using the system.

In my mind, adding content for a website should not be harder that doing accounting:)
It should probably be the other way around..

I would definitely recommend you guys to have a look at www.xero.com. They have a free trial. Not for the software in itself but for how they have managed to make accounting so simple.

If we could do the same for eZ it would be a lot easier for me to sell the system to our clients.

Fredrik

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