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Russ Abbott	Friday 02 July 2004 5:13:38 pm Can someone give me a reasonably fair (and balanced) comparison of eZPublish with Drupal and Typo3. I'm looking for a system with which I can build a community of interest with features such as the following. • Multiple blogs in case multiple people want their own blogs. Also the ability to have an aggregated blog feed that includes all the blogs. • A wiki-like capability in which people can share and coordinate expertise. • A mechanism for uploading existing papers, pictures, etc. • A mechanism that allowed people to click on uploaded objects (say papers in .pdf form or PowerPoint presentations, etc.) and attach a comment in more or less the same way that comments can be attached to blog entries. This wouldn't modify the paper; it would create a new page that linked to it and from it. • Very easy and intuitive way for users to navigate, read, and modify the site without knowing much about HTML. This suggests that it have an HTML WYSIWYG editor. (Is there a reasonable editor for eZPublisher that doesn't cost anything? Something with the minimal formatting power of a wiki editor?) • A search capability like local Google. • An easy way for members who run across something on the web, e.g. in the ACM News service or just when browsing, to add that item to the site either (or both) by copying it or by including a pointer to it, perhaps from the wiki area. • The blogs should be easy to navigate so that older entries are easily found and easily accessible. • Perhaps a mailing list and perhaps a forum, but I'm hoping those will become obsolete. Thanks. -- Russ Abbott
Jens Doka	Saturday 03 July 2004 2:09:09 am Hi Russ, I can only speak for Typo3, as I've never used Drupal. I'll comment one by one. >> Multiple blogs possible. use ee_blog-extension as content object on as many pages as you like >> Also the ability to have an aggregated blog feed that includes all the blogs. not yet possible, as the blog-extension has no such feature (no rss...) >> A wiki-like capability in which people can share and coordinate expertise. what exactliy is a wiki? a wiki can be anything. possible, i'd say >> A mechanism for uploading existing papers, pictures, etc. yes >> A mechanism that allowed people to click on uploaded objects and attach a comment (...); it would create a new page that linked to it and from it. afaik not out of the box. but as it's a good idea and useful, maybe someone will build the feature on top of an existing extension. >> Very easy and intuitive way for users to navigate, read, and modify the site without knowing much about HTML. This suggests that it have an HTML WYSIWYG editor. Yes, sir. >> A search capability like local Google. of course, and very powerful >> An easy way for members who run across something on the web, e.g. in the ACM News service or just when browsing, to add that item to the site either (or both) by copying it or by including a pointer to it, perhaps from the wiki area. don't know exactly what you mean by that. >> The blogs should be easy to navigate so that older entries are easily found and easily accessible. yes >> Perhaps a mailing list and perhaps a forum, but I'm hoping those will become obsolete. yes. mailinglist is working good in typo3. for the forum... there is a phpbb-port, but it's not working really well, and the new chc_forum is working but lacks some important features - but it has still more features than this forum here at ez. BUT: Your project is quite complex. it is rather groupware than a cms. Typo3 is powerful, but setup and templating is pretty complex. You can't compare it to drupal or postnuke. you can configure every little piece of it, but this doesn't make it easier. calculate two weeks until you really understand what it is all about. consider using phpgroupware or something like this. Hope that helped. Regards Jens

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Friday 02 July 2004 5:13:38 pm

Can someone give me a reasonably fair (and balanced) comparison of eZPublish with Drupal and Typo3. I'm looking for a system with which I can build a community of interest with features such as the following.

• Multiple blogs in case multiple people want their own blogs. Also the ability to have an aggregated blog feed that includes all the blogs.

• A wiki-like capability in which people can share and coordinate expertise.

• A mechanism for uploading existing papers, pictures, etc.

• A mechanism that allowed people to click on uploaded objects (say papers in .pdf form or PowerPoint presentations, etc.) and attach a comment in more or less the same way that comments can be attached to blog entries. This wouldn't modify the paper; it would create a new page that linked to it and from it.

• Very easy and intuitive way for users to navigate, read, and modify the site without knowing much about HTML. This suggests that it have an HTML WYSIWYG editor. (Is there a reasonable editor for eZPublisher that doesn't cost anything? Something with the minimal formatting power of a wiki editor?)

• A search capability like local Google.

• An easy way for members who run across something on the web, e.g. in the ACM News service or just when browsing, to add that item to the site either (or both) by copying it or by including a pointer to it, perhaps from the wiki area.

• The blogs should be easy to navigate so that older entries are easily found and easily accessible.

• Perhaps a mailing list and perhaps a forum, but I'm hoping those will become obsolete.

Thanks.

-- Russ Abbott

Jens Doka

Saturday 03 July 2004 2:09:09 am

Hi Russ,

I can only speak for Typo3, as I've never used Drupal. I'll comment one by one.

>> Multiple blogs
possible. use ee_blog-extension as content object on as many pages as you like

>> Also the ability to have an aggregated blog feed that includes all the blogs.
not yet possible, as the blog-extension has no such feature (no rss...)

>> A wiki-like capability in which people can share and coordinate expertise.
what exactliy is a wiki? a wiki can be anything. possible, i'd say

>> A mechanism for uploading existing papers, pictures, etc.
yes

>> A mechanism that allowed people to click on uploaded objects and attach a comment (...); it would create a new page that linked to it and from it.

afaik not out of the box. but as it's a good idea and useful, maybe someone will build the feature on top of an existing extension.

>> Very easy and intuitive way for users to navigate, read, and modify the site without knowing much about HTML. This suggests that it have an HTML WYSIWYG editor.

Yes, sir.

>> A search capability like local Google.

of course, and very powerful

>> An easy way for members who run across something on the web, e.g. in the ACM News service or just when browsing, to add that item to the site either (or both) by copying it or by including a pointer to it, perhaps from the wiki area.

don't know exactly what you mean by that.

>> The blogs should be easy to navigate so that older entries are easily found and easily accessible.

yes

>> Perhaps a mailing list and perhaps a forum, but I'm hoping those will become obsolete.
yes. mailinglist is working good in typo3. for the forum... there is a phpbb-port, but it's not working really well, and the new chc_forum is working but lacks some important features - but it has still more features than this forum here at ez.

BUT:
Your project is quite complex. it is rather groupware than a cms. Typo3 is powerful, but setup and templating is pretty complex. You can't compare it to drupal or postnuke. you can configure every little piece of it, but this doesn't make it easier. calculate two weeks until you really understand what it is all about.

consider using phpgroupware or something like this.

Hope that helped.
Regards
Jens